Thursday, March 1, 2012

Jack Parker reacts to Charlie Coyle's NHL contract, QMJHL success

By Arielle Aronson/DFP Staff

When former Terrier Charlie Coyle decided to leave Boston University in December to join the Saint John Sea Dogs of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, Terrier coach Jack Parker was vocal in his disappointment in Coyle's decision.

Since then, however, Coyle has enjoyed plenty of success in Canada. Through 16 games with the Sea Dogs, Coyle has notched 24 points on 12 goals and 12 assists. In 16 games with BU this season, Coyle scored three goals and 11 assists. The Weymouth native totaled 40 points (10 goals, 30 assists) in his BU career and was the Hockey East Rookie of the Year for the 2010-11 season.

On Thursday, two months after Coyle's move to the QMJHL, the Weymouth native inked an three-year entry-level contract with the Minnesota Wild. Coyle will remain in Saint John through the end of the season.

When notified of Coyle's contract, Parker still seemed annoyed with Coyle.

"I haven’t kept up with him at all," Parker, a coach that keeps in touch with many of his former players, said. "I would presume he would be able to score easier in that league against 16- or 17-year-olds."


Back when the then-sophomore chose to leave BU, Parker called Coyle's move "a less than lateral move" and noted that "it would have been better for us and maybe better for him if he had decided to leave at the end of last season."

Coyle's point totals in the QMJHL, Parker said, are more indicative of the quality of play in the QMJHL as compared to the NCAA rather than as a reflection of Coyle's skill.

"The quality of play can be shown by somebody that you see come here and barely gets a point and then he goes up there and gets 20," Parker said Thursday. "It’s a lot easier and it’s not as good a competition. Charlie was an 18-year-old as a freshman and a 19-year-old here and playing 22-, 23-, 24- and sometimes 25-year-olds. Now he is a 19-year-old playing against 17-year-olds. There is no way that’s as good for him. But it looks better on his stat sheet."

Coyle did not leave BU for a mediocre team. The Sea Dogs are the reigning Canadian Hockey League Memorial Cup champions. This season, the Sea Dogs are making a run to repeat, as they are the top team in the QMJHL and are ranked No. 1 in the CHL overall. Their roster boasts three first-round NHL Draft picks in forwards Zack Phillips (MIN) and Jonathan Huberdeau (FLA) as well as defenseman Nathan Beaulieu (MTL) to complement Coyle, who was drafted 28th overall by the San Jose Sharks in the 2010 NHL Draft. Still, Parker denied that Coyle's success is due in part to the caliber of players on the team's roster.

"If you took his whole line [from BU] and move them up there, they would have the same results," Parker said. "If you took Alex Chiasson, you took [Matt] Nieto, you took Coyle and played them against 17-year-olds, they would be getting a million points too. Charlie Coyle was playing with real good players here."

Parker, an ardent believer in the benefits of college hockey over Canadian major junior hockey, said Coyle's results in Canada and subsequent contract do not sway his opinion on the major junior debate.

"Unless you’re real dumb or you don’t want to go to school at all and want nothing to do with school, or you're an 18 year-old phenom that is going to be in the NHL at 19, college hockey is the way to go," Parker said.



44 comments:

  1. It absolutely disgusts me that a lot of people, including Parker, have reserved harsher commentary for Coyle deciding to leave BU for the Q than for Trivino or Nicastro being charged with criminal acts. You're all acting as though Charlie Coyle has less moral fiber than those two idiots. Are you out of your minds? You would really rather tiptoe around sexual harrassment/rape and wait for the judicial system to decide whether those two are guilty or not while you automatically condemn Coyle for simply switching his path to the NHL? I won't deny that I felt a little betrayed when Coyle left, but I felt worse when two other guys decided to break the law, violate the rights of others, and get thrown off the team in a way that shamed the entire school, not just the program. To all those still licking their wounds over Coyle leaving: GET OVER IT. You don't have to like him for what he did, but you don't have to harp on it like this and tear him down, either. Do you have any idea what kind of message you're sending to the world, right now? BU needs to get its priorities straight.

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    1. Shut Up. I doubt you even watch BU hockey, or hockey at all. Most likely you're a disgruntled student who hates sports. Parker threw Trivino and Nicastro off the team right away and that is louder than any words he could've said.

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    2. Clearly you're not a student at BU. If you were, you would know that the entire campus has been talking about the Trivino and Nicastro cases almost non-stop. As for Coyle, I haven't heard his name in weeks.
      Get your facts straight. BU IS concerned about the actions of Nicastro and Trivino.

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    3. Too many off-ice issues with Parker as coach at BU. His players ran wild there, and it was Parker who was accountable for consistently bringing bad elements to campus.

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  2. After reading Parker's comments, it's easy to see why Coyle left.

    I would be surprised if all the recruits looked elsewhere. Who wants to Play for someone like Parker?

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    1. Thanks BC troll. Such incite.

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    2. haha incite. chris bourque, is that you?

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    3. Whooooah! Wait a minute! Why do you think the above poster must be a BC troll? I'm a BC alum and I've got nothing but respect for BU.

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    4. I think Coyle should have stayed and finished his career at BU. I also, as a shark fan, wish he was never traded. The kid was one of the bright spots on team usa this year and is gonna be a good 2nd line maybe 1st line center some day. But a smart, well educated hockey player is a better hockey player. The uneducated hockey oafs from up north annoy me a bit, especially in interviews when they um every two seconds. Anyways, I do find Parkers words to be a bit harsh but I cant see his logic in opting to play with a bunch of spoiled little 17 year old canadian fairies when he could being playing tough college hockey with red blooded americans....just my opinion..

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  3. Anonymous #1: His comments were related to hockey. That is his job. Coaching hockey. Corey and Max's situations were unrelated to hockey. Would you rather have Parker go counsel rape victims instead of standing behind the bench this weekend? Please don't mix the two up.

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    1. How can you say that the Trivino/Nicastro situations are unrelated to hockey? They were members of Parker's hockey team. I'm not saying that Parker should go off and become a saint to atone for his players. What I have a problem with is that he reserved more pithy, sarcastic comments for a guy who's not on his team anymore (because he chose to leave, not because he may/may not have committed a crime) than he did for the guys he had to throw off due to disgusting behavior.

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    2. It is an ongoing criminal case, is it not? How the hell can he comment on it without getting a world of hurt for himself and BU? he did all he legally could by booting them off the team.

      I'm no BU fan by any stretch, but this is just ignorant to criticize a coach for not getting involved ina criminal matter.

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  4. Parker hate in 3...2...oh wait it's already arrived

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  5. I think you goes are over reacting, with the whole hating Parker thing.

    First of all, nobody is really grouping in Coyle with Nicastro and Trivino or saying that Coyle has less character than them, He is just reacting to what he is being told and asked about.

    Secondly, He is being honest with his opinion, he isn't saying Coyle is a bad player, Jus that he is playing against easier competition so Obviously he would be getting more points.

    Parker is disappointed in Coyle and mad, and can you really blame him? he left in the middle of the season.

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    1. "Parker is disappointed in Coyle and mad, and can you really blame him? he left in the middle of the season."

      Guess what? Trivino and Nicastro decided that no meant yes in the middle of the season and look where we are, now.

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  6. Parker's record speaks for itself...is he perfect? of course not...but is he correct about Coyle? absolutely! everyone involved with the program should be disappointed and upset with how and more importantly, when, Coyle decided to leave...the animosity felt towards Coyle is strictly hockey related...can people stop linking it to what happened with Trivino and Nicastro please...I think we can ALL agree what they did is indefensible and was extremely selfish not only to the program, but to BU in general and to their families...I rather have Parker be honest than to pretend Coyle made the right decision...if his honesty keeps recruits away, then we probably don't want them anyway...Parker has never gotten in the way of players leaving early if it was the right time to go: think Ryan Whitney, Colin Wilson, Kevin Shattenkirk, Nick Bonino, need i continue?

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    1. Okay, so if we can agree that what Trivino and Nicastro did was wrong and it's that easy to sweep a lack of moral fiber under the rug, let's just demonize Charlie Coyle, instead, because it is 'disappointing' and 'upsetting' with 'how and when' he decided to leave. Sorry, but I didn't realize that leaving the NCAA and going to Major Juniors in the middle of the season was more despicable than getting arrested for sexual assault and rape in the middle of the season.

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    2. NO ONE SAID THAT ANON. NO ONE. NO ONE THINKS THAT COYLE LEAVING IS WORSE THAN RAPE. SERIOUSLY.

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  7. Parker's position seems to be that the 19-year-old Coyle should "man up" and play against 23, 24, and 25 year-olds. First of all, why are 25-year-olds playing college hockey? Seems a bit old to me--at least if college hockey is concerned with developing hockey players. Second, and relatedly, that age difference is not conducive to showing your skills--particularly when entry into the NHL is happening at younger and younger ages. Their is no shame is showing off your talent within your own age group. I do understand the problem, though, of players leaving mid-season and do not begrudge Parker for being mad about that. But he is wrong to say college is a better place for hockey skill development. The players are voting with their feet.

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    1. So what does Parker think about his 25 year old captain?

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    2. Probably proud of his hard work. What did BC think of their 29 year old QB Dave Shinskie, aka, Uncle Dave?

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  8. College is a better place for hockey skill development

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  9. Why couldn't Coach Parker just wish all the best for Charlie Coyle and move on. And by the way there are several players on Coyle's team who have already signed NHL contracts and the majority of them have already been drafted by NHL teams. Parker also has the average ages wrong as well. The ages of 18 and 19 would represent more of the players than the ages Parker suggests. Also, the CHL offers scholarships to their players who wish to attend university after their junior career ends if they don't turn professional. Finally, Coyle's team in Saint John also does a lot of charity work such as school and hospital visits. I hope that Mr. Parker would spend more time improving the culture on his own team. Coyle is doing just fine and Minnesota has just rewarded him as a result.

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    1. Parker can't just "wish the best for Charlie Coyle and move on" for two reasons:
      1. He, and all other college coaches, are recruiting against the major junior leagues and
      2. The Daily Free Press staff has nothing better to do than to beat a dead horse. How is this relevant right now? And while we're at it, Parker has better things to do like, oh, coaching the players on the team and getting ready for playoffs.

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  10. The skill level in the Q, makes up for the age difference in the NCAA. I don't care if you are playing against 25 year olds. The fact that they are still there at 25, speaks volumes about their skill level. I find it funny that Parker speaks about Coyle now playing against 16 and 17 year olds. lol. Yes there is a few 16's in the league, but only the very best ones. Also, a line like Coyle's don't play against the kids that often. Most teams will put an experienced shutdown line against them, or match them head to head with their top line. The other thing I find funny is where he mentioned having a hard time to even get a point in college hockey...lol. he had 3 goals and 11 assists before he left. What I would like to see is Coyle's line now, against Coyle's BU line....that might shut up the naysayers.

    I guess my whole point is, just because you are upset about your player leaving, don't go just making up false statements about the league he is currently playing in. I would be the champs in the Q, could give the college champs a good game, even with their 16 and 17 year olds.

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    1. From seeing both BU and Saint John play within the past year, SJ would defintly could make it a close game. Playing with huberdeau and Phillips is also a lot better then what he was playing with at BU.

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  11. Way to stick he knife in and twist it...Coyle will be just fine in Canada playing with and against NHL drafted talent. Coach Parker sounds like a teenage girl who just got dumped.

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  12. There are 25 year olds playing college hockey because that is what NCAA college sports has decided is acceptable.

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  13. Parker's just upset that Coyle makes for money than him now.

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  14. Very classless reaction by Parker

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    1. It was a great reaction. Totally candid. I love it.

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  15. I don't follow college hockey and obviously Parker doesn't follow the Q or junior. The Sea Dogs have 11 players who have been NHL drafted or have signed an NHL contract. They have had additional players invited to pro camps. How many draft picks on Parker's team? Obviously if he has 25 year olds it say something about their skill. By the way Parker age has nothing to do with skill. Look at guys like Hall, Seguin, RNH, Skinner,etc. These kids are a lot more talented than many NHL vets. I'd love to see the Dogs play BU. The skill on this team would make Parker eat his words.

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    1. 10 w/ a few more likely to be drafted this summer and I'd be certain several more have attended summer camps sponsored by NHL teams. What's your point?

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    2. the dogs would destroy bu

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  16. Classless Jack embarassed BU again!

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  17. If only we had Coyle for the Beanpot...

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  18. Under the table payments & raiding college rosters during the season...yeah Canadian junior hockey is a pillar of honesty and good deeds.

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  19. Are you kidding me about Jr Hockey in Canada? I have watched it and it can not compare to NCAA. Some of the players start out 15 years old to start the year! It may be great for them when they are young but they do not develop as if they were to play in older leagues. Very few, if any, each year make it from jrs to NHL without AHL Coyle was a bum to leave his team. You do not do that to fellow players on your team.

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  20. Hey can someone remind me the score of the scrimage game against St. Francis. twenty one and twenty two year old players from the Q that couldnt make the nhl.

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  21. You spelled complement wrong, so much for BU being better than the Q

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    1. Speaking of classless, criticizing spelling on an internet comment board? If that is the game people want to play; "complement" is an incorrect spelling of "compliment," and vice versa. The spelling all depends on the usage of the word, with "complement" (meaning "to complete") vs. "compliment" (meaning "to praise").

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  22. Honest comments that I totally agree with. Should he have said those things in his position as Coach at BU? Maybe not, but he spoke the truth, and sometimes thats tough for some people to hear, and sometimes it might get you in trouble. Time will tell. As far as quality of hockey goes, Major Junior programs would have no business playing a top tier NCAA team. They are on a similar level as USHL teams, as can be witnessed by looking at the results of the USHL vs. Canadian MJ games that were played in the preseason. My recollection is that the USHL had the upper hand in those games.

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  23. "Unless you’re real dumb or you don’t want to go to school at all and want nothing to do with school, or you're an 18 year-old phenom that is going to be in the NHL at 19, college hockey is the way to go," Parker.

    Funny no one of the above fans or haters picked up on. Coyle wanted nothing to do with school and was going be force to leave school. Let's be honest how many kids leave an ISL school to go back to there town high school and choose to play juniors? One of the above fans or haters please name 5 kids? Enough Said!!!

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  24. thats why they fight in the q,real fairies,maj junior puck is much better then college hockey

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